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The Business & Faith Podcast

Learning from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose.

With John Staub & Travis Hall

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Latest · #129

Joey Brannon - The Cost of Keeping the Wrong High Performer

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About the show.

The Business & Faith Podcast is where we learn from leaders whose experience and faith shape how they grow their organizations on purpose.

Some conversations are entirely about business. Some are entirely about faith. Most are somewhere in between, where a leader is working out how the two fit together in real decisions with real people.

These are conversations, not interviews. Wherever the conversation leads, that is where the episode goes. Nothing is scripted, and the most valuable answers usually come from the hardest seasons, told honestly by the people who lived them: how they grew, why, what it cost, and what they believed that carried them through.

This show is for leaders at every stage. The ones who want to lead and have not been given the chance yet. The ones just starting. The ones growing something that has begun to outgrow them. And the ones finishing well and handing it on. That includes founders and startup teams, managers leading without the title yet, pastors and nonprofit leaders, academics and the people building new tools, and parents leading their kids through sports and through life. Whether the organization you are growing is a company or a family, this is for you.

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Every episode.

  • 129

    Joey Brannon - The Cost of Keeping the Wrong High Performer

    35 min
  • 128

    Kristen Campbell - Call People Up Without Tearing Them Down

    41 min
  • 127

    Tad McIntosh - Your Team Can't Execute an Unclear Plan

    37 min
  • 126

    Mark Byler - Build the Process With the People Who Use It

    33 min
  • 125

    Preston Lee - Better Training Beats More Micromanaging

    43 min
  • 124

    Nick Stavros - Don't Let Growth Cost You the Mission

    38 min

The hosts.

John Staub

Host · Head of Operations, Dataliction

John Staub is a learner who helps others learn. He is the host of The Business & Faith Podcast and Head of Operations at Dataliction, where he designs and develops custom software that helps organizations actually use AI, built around how they already work. His education runs down the middle of the show's name—a bachelor's degree in business management and a Master of Divinity—and so does his career: a decade in full-time ministry leadership, followed by a decade in business growth. In the first he helped churches grow from one site to three and more than triple in size, launched services on new days, designed volunteer training, implemented new software, planted churches, and spent three years on the mission field. In the second he has run due diligence on mergers and acquisitions, managed sales, built growth marketing and channel partnerships, and helped founders raise capital and exit, across retail, SaaS, manufacturing, and nonprofits. He is a songwriter who became a spreadsheet nerd, and now he writes code. Across more than 120 episodes, he asks honest questions, listens well, and gives people room to find the real answer. He lives in Indiana with his family.

Travis Hall

Co-Host · Founder & CEO, Dataliction

Travis Hall is the co-host of The Business & Faith Podcast and the founder and CEO of Dataliction. He has built more than a dozen startups and sold businesses to Starbucks, RCA, and private equity. From burgers to batteries, from health insurtech to nonprofits, he has advised hundreds of leaders, from senior executives to first-time founders. Across that range, his own approach to communication, market intelligence, and innovation has taught him what it takes to grow any kind of organization. That is the work he does with owners today: building organizations that keep working when the people change, and helping leaders communicate clearly enough that their teams follow. He is a longtime member of C12, a peer advisory group for Christian business leaders.

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